Comments on: Your website sucks..from A Photo Editor http://www.avisualsociety.com/2007/10/30/your-website-sucksfrom-a-photo-editor/ "A fashion picture is a portrait, just as a portrait is a fashion picture." - Irving Penn Sat, 30 Aug 2008 03:56:48 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5 by: James Rekerki http://www.avisualsociety.com/2007/10/30/your-website-sucksfrom-a-photo-editor/#comment-10603 Wed, 27 Aug 2008 16:40:34 +0000 http://www.avisualsociety.com/2007/10/30/your-website-sucksfrom-a-photo-editor/#comment-10603 I have to admit tremendously with this post. Your website is an extension of you and if it looks crappy, people will associate that with you. You can also look at it from the point of view of products that have ncie packaging . They could be the worst tasting cookies in the world, but peopel would buy them based on how their packaging looks. Apples and oranges I have to admit tremendously with this post. Your website is an extension of you and if it looks crappy, people will associate that with you. You can also look at it from the point of view of products that have ncie packaging . They could be the worst tasting cookies in the world, but peopel would buy them based on how their packaging looks. Apples and oranges

]]> by: Ex-designer turned photographer http://www.avisualsociety.com/2007/10/30/your-website-sucksfrom-a-photo-editor/#comment-908 Sat, 15 Dec 2007 19:26:22 +0000 http://www.avisualsociety.com/2007/10/30/your-website-sucksfrom-a-photo-editor/#comment-908 Good posting. I agree with all of your points. However, as an ex-graphic designer, I have to bluntly admit that Live Books, and it's service, is pure crap. No self-respecting photographer should go with them. While it does work fairly quickly, it can make even decent work look stale. And how about points for originality? It's just as bad as the portfolio book houses. Then again, whatever, right? Good posting. I agree with all of your points. However, as an ex-graphic designer, I have to bluntly admit that Live Books, and it’s service, is pure crap. No self-respecting photographer should go with them. While it does work fairly quickly, it can make even decent work look stale. And how about points for originality? It’s just as bad as the portfolio book houses. Then again, whatever, right?

]]> by: Jeff Singer http://www.avisualsociety.com/2007/10/30/your-website-sucksfrom-a-photo-editor/#comment-639 Fri, 02 Nov 2007 15:53:19 +0000 http://www.avisualsociety.com/2007/10/30/your-website-sucksfrom-a-photo-editor/#comment-639 I'm with livebooks now. I originally wasn't going to go with them because of the fact that their sites would be too similar. I've been with them for a while now, so this is even before they really took off. I still have the same concern. However, the ease of adding new images, re-arranging the entire site at my whim, the speed of the site, and the little extras like pdf downloads that are automatically generated based on what is new in your library, etc) make it worth it IMHO. I don't want to rely on a designer to do things that I can do myself with livebooks. Although, I still cringe every time I open up a photographers website and see that they've switched to livebooks. Jeff I’m with livebooks now. I originally wasn’t going to go with them because of the fact that their sites would be too similar. I’ve been with them for a while now, so this is even before they really took off. I still have the same concern.

However, the ease of adding new images, re-arranging the entire site at my whim, the speed of the site, and the little extras like pdf downloads that are automatically generated based on what is new in your library, etc) make it worth it IMHO. I don’t want to rely on a designer to do things that I can do myself with livebooks.

Although, I still cringe every time I open up a photographers website and see that they’ve switched to livebooks.

Jeff

]]> by: More about websites | j bryner photographics http://www.avisualsociety.com/2007/10/30/your-website-sucksfrom-a-photo-editor/#comment-632 Thu, 01 Nov 2007 14:58:09 +0000 http://www.avisualsociety.com/2007/10/30/your-website-sucksfrom-a-photo-editor/#comment-632 [...] The balance of the article can be found here, and the blog is here [...] […] The balance of the article can be found here, and the blog is here […]

]]> by: 1416教室 » 摄影师网站“装修须知” http://www.avisualsociety.com/2007/10/30/your-website-sucksfrom-a-photo-editor/#comment-630 Wed, 31 Oct 2007 23:29:15 +0000 http://www.avisualsociety.com/2007/10/30/your-website-sucksfrom-a-photo-editor/#comment-630 [...]   图片编辑的发言引起了另一位纽约摄影人的感慨，他洋洋洒洒列了10条摄影人网站须知： 1， 摄影师的网站目前已经成为他人检阅你照片的第一途径，如果你的网站不够好，那你就麻烦大了。 2， Livebooks公司给摄影师创建的网站模型越来越成为大家普遍接受的样态。不管怎样，一定要让你的网页设计人员给你搞一个真正精彩的网站给你。 3， 我烦透了那些把自己的照片分成作品集1、作品集2、作品集3.。。。这样格式的摄影师，这让人对其中的内容毫无兴趣。如果你是一个肖像摄影师，你就用作品的名字命名，总之让它们显得有趣一些，给我们一个点击它的理由。 4， 要花一分钟才能下载下来的眼花缭乱的介绍，太糟糕了。 5， 要花一分钟才能下载的导航栏，算了吧 6， 我希望从网站上获取摄影师的个人信息，应该有一个简历，告诉我们你的概况。但是千万别洋洋洒洒废话太多，那些诸如我喜欢冲浪、在8个国家长大之类的细节就别放上去了，而“我伴随着相机成长”这样的话就实在让人讨厌了。 7， 从我个人角度来说，我不喜欢那种弹出网页的浏览形式。如果不是弹出式的，那就注意不要让你的网页比一般正常页面要小，因为我们都是来看照片的，太小了怎么看清楚。 8， 把你曾经为之供稿的客户列出来，越多越好。 9， 联系方式。这似乎很理所当然，但是照样有人忽略 10， 你的邮件地址，呵呵，我在给摄影师发邮件的时候总是感到好笑，因为有人竟然用sexyandsssy68@gmail这样的地址，这种地址在你使用mspace交友，或者年级在19岁以下申请助理职位的时候还比较灵光。如果你作为一个职业摄影师，就应该注册一个更加好记的，接近你自己姓名的邮件联络地址。 11， 我比较喜欢的一个摄影师个人网站是Raymond Meier的，简单易用，他的作品集纳得很好，最近的作品在首页，还有一个很好用的照片检索。 [...] […]   图片编辑的发言引起了另一位纽约摄影人的感慨，他洋洋洒洒列了10条摄影人网站须知： 1， 摄影师的网站目前已经成为他人检阅你照片的第一途径，如果你的网站不够好，那你就麻烦大了。 2， Livebooks公司给摄影师创建的网站模型越来越成为大家普遍接受的样态。不管怎样，一定要让你的网页设计人员给你搞一个真正精彩的网站给你。 3， 我烦透了那些把自己的照片分成作品集1、作品集2、作品集3.。。。这样格式的摄影师，这让人对其中的内容毫无兴趣。如果你是一个肖像摄影师，你就用作品的名字命名，总之让它们显得有趣一些，给我们一个点击它的理由。 4， 要花一分钟才能下载下来的眼花缭乱的介绍，太糟糕了。 5， 要花一分钟才能下载的导航栏，算了吧 6， 我希望从网站上获取摄影师的个人信息，应该有一个简历，告诉我们你的概况。但是千万别洋洋洒洒废话太多，那些诸如我喜欢冲浪、在8个国家长大之类的细节就别放上去了，而“我伴随着相机成长”这样的话就实在让人讨厌了。 7， 从我个人角度来说，我不喜欢那种弹出网页的浏览形式。如果不是弹出式的，那就注意不要让你的网页比一般正常页面要小，因为我们都是来看照片的，太小了怎么看清楚。 8， 把你曾经为之供稿的客户列出来，越多越好。 9， 联系方式。这似乎很理所当然，但是照样有人忽略 10， 你的邮件地址，呵呵，我在给摄影师发邮件的时候总是感到好笑，因为有人竟然用sexyandsssy68@gmail这样的地址，这种地址在你使用mspace交友，或者年级在19岁以下申请助理职位的时候还比较灵光。如果你作为一个职业摄影师，就应该注册一个更加好记的，接近你自己姓名的邮件联络地址。 11， 我比较喜欢的一个摄影师个人网站是Raymond Meier的，简单易用，他的作品集纳得很好，最近的作品在首页，还有一个很好用的照片检索。 […]

]]> by: dude http://www.avisualsociety.com/2007/10/30/your-website-sucksfrom-a-photo-editor/#comment-629 Wed, 31 Oct 2007 20:12:43 +0000 http://www.avisualsociety.com/2007/10/30/your-website-sucksfrom-a-photo-editor/#comment-629 Livebooks is the antichrist. Livebooks is the antichrist.

]]> by: links for 2007-10-31 | TrentHead.Com http://www.avisualsociety.com/2007/10/30/your-website-sucksfrom-a-photo-editor/#comment-627 Wed, 31 Oct 2007 14:22:20 +0000 http://www.avisualsociety.com/2007/10/30/your-website-sucksfrom-a-photo-editor/#comment-627 [...] Your website sucks..from A Photo Editor | Avisualsociety Your site will most often, nowadays, be the first way anyone sees your work. If you don’t have a site, you’re in trouble. Get one, and put some thought into it, even if your agency has a great site. (tags: photography) [...] […] Your website sucks..from A Photo Editor | Avisualsociety Your site will most often, nowadays, be the first way anyone sees your work. If you don’t have a site, you’re in trouble. Get one, and put some thought into it, even if your agency has a great site. (tags: photography) […]

]]> by: Bruce DeBoer http://www.avisualsociety.com/2007/10/30/your-website-sucksfrom-a-photo-editor/#comment-624 Tue, 30 Oct 2007 18:54:50 +0000 http://www.avisualsociety.com/2007/10/30/your-website-sucksfrom-a-photo-editor/#comment-624 There is one point that I'd like to add about Live Books: differentiation. Yes - we all now it's "all about the work" but having a proprietary site is important in my mind. I always thought of Live Books as being a fair stop gap for young photographers building a business but never an aspiration of what to ascend to. There is one point that I’d like to add about Live Books: differentiation.
Yes - we all now it’s “all about the work” but having a proprietary site is important in my mind. I always thought of Live Books as being a fair stop gap for young photographers building a business but never an aspiration of what to ascend to.

]]> by: Bruce DeBoer http://www.avisualsociety.com/2007/10/30/your-website-sucksfrom-a-photo-editor/#comment-623 Tue, 30 Oct 2007 18:16:54 +0000 http://www.avisualsociety.com/2007/10/30/your-website-sucksfrom-a-photo-editor/#comment-623 http://www.jeremycowart.com/ = very cool That organization is perfect for someone with his depth of work, I'm not sure it would be as impressive for everyone though. http://www.jeremycowart.com/ = very cool
That organization is perfect for someone with his depth of work, I’m not sure it would be as impressive for everyone though.

]]> by: Donald Giannatti http://www.avisualsociety.com/2007/10/30/your-website-sucksfrom-a-photo-editor/#comment-622 Tue, 30 Oct 2007 14:47:44 +0000 http://www.avisualsociety.com/2007/10/30/your-website-sucksfrom-a-photo-editor/#comment-622 OMG... almost fell out of my chair! I preach this day in and day out and still get shouted over by photographers who want Flash crap with splash pages, animated intros and on and on. Next week I will have to sit through a presentation on marketing that will cap in 'get this cool flash website cause it will help you with all the truly great art directors." Might be good advice for established in big markets, but to most in small to medium it is nearly unfathomable. Actually I can't even say it is good information period I love Raymond Meirs site, (wish it wasn't totally flash) along with Jermey Cowart: http://www.jeremycowart.com/ Simple, easy navigation. No Flash pages. ( I have no problem with Flash included, but total Flash sites are totally a bad idea unless you are so friggin established that you don't need any pull marketing ) Really like you posts. Wish more people would actually listen to people, you know, in the business instead of Graphic Designers who many times are more interested in making something 'cool' than making something that helps the photographer get more attention. OMG… almost fell out of my chair!

I preach this day in and day out and still get shouted over by photographers who want Flash crap with splash pages, animated intros and on and on. Next week I will have to sit through a presentation on marketing that will cap in ‘get this cool flash website cause it will help you with all the truly great art directors.” Might be good advice for established in big markets, but to most in small to medium it is nearly unfathomable. Actually I can’t even say it is good information period

I love Raymond Meirs site, (wish it wasn’t totally flash) along with Jermey Cowart:
http://www.jeremycowart.com/

Simple, easy navigation. No Flash pages. ( I have no problem with Flash included, but total Flash sites are totally a bad idea unless you are so friggin established that you don’t need any pull marketing )

Really like you posts. Wish more people would actually listen to people, you know, in the business instead of Graphic Designers who many times are more interested in making something ‘cool’ than making something that helps the photographer get more attention.

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